Ok so I decided to follow my instincts and go for a Hail Mary: I topped and trimmed them and now, to pray
Too many damaged parts, at least now I can see clearly whatās going on.
Damaged plant has one side completely stunted, the other growing, albeit slowly. Roots are way too low in the ground to be all seen but the smaller ones I saw are white.
The other one looks better, but I still gave it a trim too. Same deal with the roots.
I also found some metal grills to place them on so the pots would breathe better/more equally, as the bottom was very wet.
Iāll keep to clear water for now, will wait a bit before giving fertilizer again. Unless you think I should start again?
Iām using ānormalā soil, what we call āterreauā here, with around 30% perlite mixed in.
I think itās actually more of an overwatering issue as the pots were still heavy, with zero runoffs and the bottoms were wet. So I placed them on metal grills and am hoping it will help.
So, it would appear I didnāt have the full text of your answer and I thought you were being flippant but not at all, so Iām very sorry about my own flippant answer
The patient(s) are now topped and trimmed and weāll see how things go in the next few days
I uploaded pics with my answer to gruen.
No watering for now, last one was after cutting this morning despite the fact that the pots were heavy and wet on the bottom so Iāll just let them dry some. Next time I water I was planning on no fertilizer as not to brutalize themā¦
I wouldnāt be a mod here anymore if it always triggered me. But sometimes itās also on me to be misunderstood here. Iām just a working dad with a passion for growing. For whom itās always āFamily Firstā. And sometimes I only send half a message/reply.
But I also unfortunately suspect that something isnāt quite working as it should with the automatic translation engineā¦
Anyway, the important thing is that things are looking up for your ladies againā¦
Iāve now calmly read everything through.
So first of all, has anything happened with yours yet?
Could it be that the soil is from the hardware store around the corner? These soils can potentially spoil because they are stored outdoors and have gotten too wet. And since we donāt currently have the temperatures for them to dry quickly on the pallet, the soil can already āgo badā in the bag. By that I mean that your pre-fertilized soil dissolves the solid fertilizers, cannot break them down, and thus becomes oversalted. This makes the soil very acidic in terms of pH value. And since you also kept the soil nice and moist, a nutrient lockout may have occurred.
My tip would be, even if it sounds paradoxical: I would water carefully until runoff occurs. Measure the pH value and then check. If something isnāt right with it, get pH regulation for soil, you can find it in specialized online stores.
Thanks for the answer and tips. Itās going to be ānighttimeā for them in 5min so Iāll try the runoff thing in 6 hours
Theyāre doing great, Iām glad I topped/trimmed. I probably lost a week with the freak accident but they appear to be growing strong again.
I canāt wait to give them nutrients again but I know I must be a bit patient and try to test the water first and since they donāt drink much right now and I donāt want to risk overwatering, itāll have to be in a couple of days.
I attached pics of both. One is lopsided but at least I didnāt lose it all completely. Now Iām just worried that with my luck they wonāt be females
(Auto translate feature IS a pita for sure)
Thanks again, hoping for more good news later today!
Theyāre already looking quite good again.
If you add some bloom booster to the water and give them some when watering, they will show their sex shortly after. That also works if you spray the leaves with it. A small tip to avoid wasting time on male plants.
Ok @herr_gruen and @Dbe I ran a runoff test for PH and I think Iām around 6-6.5. Iām not certain because mine is a liquid test and as the runoff water was a bit yellow-brown, itās hard to assess the resulting color after adding the reactive. But Iād say 6-6.5. Not too bad?
I also mixed a drop of the bio-bloom with 5ml of water and dabbed some on the leaves and put the remainder at their feet.
Should I do it more than once? How much/how often? How long until I know more?
Ok once again I didnāt have the whole text, I had to turn on/off translation again and copy paste the full comment (which suddenly appeared) in a translating tool.
I went with the bio bloom one because the ingredientās are the same whereas the top max one is mainly humic and fulvic acids.
Thanks for the instructions on how to apply/use. I will now wait for them to declare themselves and .
I put my fabric pots in a plant saucer and the tilt it with a milk bottle top under the back. I then water till 10-20% runoff every 3 days or so and remove the runoff with a large blunt syringe. It works well at keeping the soil damp and not sodden at the roots. Is your pot in a saucer to remove runoff?
Another question for you Hoochie: what method are you using to measure pH ? I used a cheap probe and paper strips to start and had quite a few pH problems. Then for my 2nd I bought an Apera P20 and it really helps for water/nutrients and runoff. I must say though your plants are looking much better now. Good luck!
Thanks for your question. I have them on Ā« grills Ā» I added about a week ago when I realized I was having sodden bottoms. You can see pics of them in the thread.
I didnāt water until runoff until yesterday but I will make a note of doing it at regular intervals
I had a kit with strips from our swimming pool days but I think they were too old and didnāt really react so I didnāt use them. I bought a kit with liquid reactive and color chart, itās for aquariums but thatās all I could get my hands on.
It seems to be working but Iāll look at what you mentioned
Theyāre growing good, tomorrow Iāll top them to go from 2 to 8 colas (well, on one, the other will go from 1.5 to 5 or 6?). Iāve ordered ties to start training them because theyāre not flat enough, I procrastinated a bit on that.
Iāve resumed giving fertilizer, still at half dose.
The bloom fertilizer trick didnāt make them change much, I still canāt tell what they are as I donāt really see things at the nodes?
Here are pics of the full plants then closeups, do you see anything?
Itās a bit early for sexing. They will normally show between weeks 4-8 as they mature. You could put them on a 12/12 light schedule and they might show in a week or so. From what I see I would say more than likely itās a female. Good luck
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