So I am in 7 weeks of vegetative last phase at least hydroponics indoor grow. This is a indica dom
Truffle butter rare strain auto flower itâs to my understanding it should show some signs of pre flower I have seen barely two pistols and all this plant is doing is drinking up nutrients and growing. Arenât autos suppose to flip to flower on their own at this point. I was going to change light cycle but itâs to my understanding it wonât help until the plant wants to but in two days she has drank 8 liters of nuts juice âŚtank holds 6.5 liters I only fill 4liters ⌠I want to defoliate more but with no significant pre flower signs unsure what to do next or where to start cutting.
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Ill be honestâŚi dont know anything about hydroponics , but are you sure its an auto?
All i grow is autos heres mine at day 36 over all day 7 flowerâŚ
I had pistels around 2.5 weeks this time around but waited until i had more to consider flower stage at day 29 of veg
My lightâs are off now but this pic is from 6 days ago.
If your 7 weeks veg you probably have a photo the longest ive had an auto veg was close to 4 weeks.
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The truffle butter strain is an indica strain auto now is it possible the dispensary sold it as an auto and it isnât idk. Iâll assume they wouldnât bring its bad business but the growth on this has surpassed my photo on my last grow. Leafly says itâs an auto and ideally should show some signs all sheâs doing is drinking nutes like sheâs on vacationâŚIâve gone thru 8 liters of water infused nutes in a week and she has grown to about 23-24 inches. Next Thursday is week 8. I was gonna just flip light at that point but I thought auto flip to flower on their on this isnât doing anything but stretching
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Indicas are great !!!
The stretch is completely normal and will continue.
As far as the plant intake of nutrients , remember im in soil , but i water each one of my plants about 12 liters per week at this point. So im not really surprised there.
I dont want to bring bad luck but could it be a male plant producing seeds instead of buds ?
If you switch the lighting to a 12/12 schedule and it starts to flower then its a photo ( id get ahold of the breeder ) like you understand autos do everything on their own and does not need to switch.
I run a permanent 18/6 schedule myself and have no problems. I know hydro is different but i donât think its that much different on growthâŚi could be wrong.
I took these this morning,
day 42 overall day 14 flower on this one
This one is 20 days ( just for growth rate reference)
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If its going through a huge growth spurt that could be the flowering stretch kicking in despite the lack of other signs. Im not an auto guy though so im only basing that off what I have seen in photoperiod plants. If you arenât seeing definite signs in the next week or two i would be switching the lights to 12/12 and making sure one way or another. The dispo might have just messed up or got something mislabelled sent to them, these things happen sometimes
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Wow twelve liters a week thatâs insane . I just refilled reservoir 2 days ago. Thank is 6.5 litters guess I could try the light cycle switch as mentioned in thread and see for sure. I prefer indicas myself. The only difference I think from hydro to soil is skill and hyper focus I tried soil but once I saw a gnat larvae in soil I stopped lolđ
well Iâll post to the grow journal and see what happens on flip hoping itâs not a male
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The light switch at this point may be only option although they are suppose to flip on their own but at this rate plant will reach 3 or 4 feet if it doesnât stop drinking nutes all day. Iâll post the progress on the grow link. Thanks
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My Do-Si-Do auto i just harvested was 54 inches from soil to top of main cola and got a little over half a pound
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So this is what Iâm seeing so far very bushy plant still just checked this a few minutes ago but I donât see it everywhere only on about few areas.
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I marked up one of your picsâŚ
My edit shows the ones that are gonna be colaâs , the leaves right below the ones i marked are probably your fan leaves?.
Your also right at the beginning of preflower , starting to show pistels at the base of your branches and gonna start producing buds and shes ginna stretch. How much depends on your lighting , how strong , how far awayâŚ
I try and keep ppfd around 700-800 @24 inches above canopy right now, then when your bud sites get noticeable go to 900-1000 ppfd and keep it 24 inches as long as you can. Depending on if its a dwarf breed or not and the right pot size shell get real close if not more than 4 foot tall.
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Ok thanks 
at least itâs a fem for sure just gotta be patient
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So real quick question regarding your marking so the red ones you donât trim I highlighted same image with blue markings Iâm assuming this is ok to clip the pics highlighted in blue are fan leaves . Still some pistols very slow Iâm assuming I may need to defoliate more but been reluctant as to go full defoliation as the pistols arenât evident in about 80% of plant probably not even 5% thinking the light blockage from leaves isnât helping???
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Your blue ones should end in a single fan leaf with nothing else coming off it. The red marks are usually where they are. Maybe this will helpâŚ
If you look at the one running along the red line , thats the one to cut. You can see its only a single fan leaf on the end. Everything else would stay on.
Just me though but if you cant see your entire cut area you could accidentally cut something you dint want to
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Ok this makes sense basically when defoliating you really just want to cut the fan leaf stem not the stem of the intersection where the pistols are growing because that is were the buds will form. I was concerned if cutting of to many fan leaves effect yield. If the fan leaves I highlighted in blue are correct and the leaf your holding would get cut then I should be ok I definitely will need to cut more as I have a ridiculous amount of fan leaves for this strain
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AlmostâŚyou only want to trim enough of your fan leaves to get light to your bud sites.
The fan leaves are important for growth , they are what do most the work absorbing the light it needs.
I do my best to âtuckâ leaves before cutting them. Ill even spread it out with LST to keep from cutting them.
Ive seen autos get defoilated , but never done it myself so i cant say the outcome.
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I just got done trimming mine and this is how she looks after
This is all i took off
Just enough to get light into the inside and to the bud sites as well.
Hope this helps.
(I just fed is why its wet)
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Ok it helps so basically donât overdue it when trimming only cut if it is blocking light to other bud sites
RightâŚor at least thats how i do it and seems to work fine.
