New grower here looking for some charts for feeding if anyone can help I’d appreciate it alot xxx
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Hi @Babygirl1 welcome and happy growing. There are lots of charts out there but they are usually made for a specific line of nutrients. What kind of nutrients are you gong to use?
I’m not ever sure about that either I should have mentioned that as well
What kind of medium are you going to grow in? Soil, coco or hydro?
I’m growing in Foxfarm soil and I’m using the Foxfarm nutrients. These are synthetic nutrients. If you want to go organic, there are several options. One thing to note, the feeding charts advise you to give too much nutrients that will burn your plants. You want to start with a quarter dose and work you way up from there.
If you are unsure about the process, I recommend reading this book. It gives you the basics to get going.
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I’m actually growing in coco and where would I find the book at
You can find it on Amazon.
@Stoney1BudTokie grows in coco with great success. He can help you out.
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Coco is the way to go. I run a slightly modified version of this one:
Been using it a couple years now with great success.
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Hey @frogyrogy, curious why you prefer coco, I’ve always grown in foxfarm soil…
I run coco/perlite with a HFF, DTW setup which gives me the growth very near that of a dialed in hydro/DWC system with stability and reliability closer to a soil grow. For example, If I leave for the weekend and a pump has failed when I come home I’ll likely find thirsty plants instead of dead. That being said, I keep a new pump on the shelf at all times and hate being away from home more than 3 days running.
I also like not wondering about when to feed, water or flush . . . I do all three multiple times every day. By running HFF/DTW my plants are in coco that is constantly being flushed and “recharged” throughout the day.
I also have better results with coco as I like using small containers, I have 4 in 1 liter pots now that are fed 8 times per day . . . on day 31 flower and looking decent. The largest pots I use are 3 gallon, most of my grows are finished in 1 gallon pots.
In addition to your normal nutrients, pH and ECC meters you have to maintain reservoirs, pumps, timers, plumbing etc. for HFF/DTW so extra setup costs are the downside.
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It’s interesting and I’m educating myself a bit. I spend a lot on soil because I don’t want to reuse it, so the startup expenses don’t turn me off if it pays off in the long run. Sounds like a whole new learning process though and sadly I’m not experienced enough with what I’m doing to look for change… yet
Welcome @Babygirl1, my first thought is temp and humidity (vdp). I suggest this site and the adjustable tables within…
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Coco simplifies things quite a bit really . . . close to a set it and forget it system really. It’s a lot harder to manage temp, humidity, air flow and plant training than it is the feeding. Depending on reservoir size/plant count, mix nutrients every 3-7 days and forget about them. Seems a lot of people think mixing the nutrients is difficult but actually it’s easier for a new grower to learn to mix nutrients properly than to water properly in a soil grow.
An odd downside is you don’t learn as much about the plants because you don’t experience the same problems as you do in other setups . . . hard to learn about deficiencies when you never see them in your garden. Other than a couple incidents of bud rot over the years, I can’t remember the last time I looked at my plants and wondered “what’s wrong” with them.
I was introduced to General Hydroponics nutrients and coco by a friend studying horticulture at VT in 1995 . . . since then I’ve learned that dirt belongs outside, no reason to bring it in the house. You could even run coco using the Lucas Formula and have better grows than you’d see in soil. And as for Fox Farm soils, they are garbage in my opinion, I bought a bag of Happy Frog for the ole lady’s house plants, first cup she pulled from it was mostly bark and had a rock in it over an inch in diameter in it. And yes, we dumped it out and mixed it before using . . . I have use their Cultivation Nation coco but prefer Mother Earth brand personally. Fox Farms, just another catchy name that caught on with growers who now swear by it . . . and can’t even tell you why.
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Full dosing methods are generally 5ml-10ml per gallon. I have a 3 part system with advanced nutrients and it consists of micro, grow, bloom and the dose above would be 5-10-5ml with cal mag being 5-10ml and enzymes being 10 ml. All of these are basic dosing that can be adjusted down. As above said, coco is great for beginners and experts, and is a form of dwc, so if you do screw something up she will tell you immediately. You also have to over compensate on ypur calmag as coco competes with the roots for cal mag. Its the opposite in bloom as coco naturally leeches p/k so ypu wont need as much bloom strength in flower. But you will always be feeding 1.5-2 times the dose of cal mag throughout to make up for what the coco steals. Hope this helps.
My nutrient line is Cutting Edge Solutions out of California. What i meant about advanced nutrients is my silica, enzymes, michoraezae, bloom boosters, cal mag and a flushing agent
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Agree 100%
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I really appreciate all the info @frogyrogy, I had some experience with soil long ago so when legal grows became possible in illinois I was eager to get out from under paying 300/oz. With your explanation I’m convinced I need to make a transition at some point. The expense, space and my time and energy aren’t issues so it’s a matter of expertise and comfort level.
From the little bit of research I’m doing online I’m doing online it sounds like most dtw systems are DIY? Is there an off the shelf system you’d recommend?
As far as foxfarm, I’m not going to criticize till I’ve followed the instructions. I did note on 420 mag.com that their expert doesn’t like happyfrog… I’m liking ocean forest so far, and I like light warrior for seedlings.
I run mostly FloraFlex stuff, pots and irrigation . . . for drainage I use their platform system. It works well and very simple to setup. I mostly use the FloraCaps on the square pots but their Matrix system is pretty good with the 3 gallon pot pros also.
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Ayo! Thanks for this feed chart I was using another feed chart but I’m digging this one more! Plus you said you’ve used it for years and I just hand water lol.
I’ve noticed more yellowing in one of my plants and I couldn’t figure why but I wasn’t adding extra cal mag to compensate for the coco leaching that makes way more sense to double dosage of cal mag! Thanks man!
Thanks @frogyrogy, is the link below what your suggesting more or less … I’m assuming there are a one or two pumps and a couple buckets or reservoirs to add. The water and nutes flow out of one bucket and the waste flows into another? I think I spent more than this on soil in the past year. Soil is treating this girl well though… starting week 6 today 
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That kit is pretty close to what I have in my setup . . . right now I’m using 18 gallon Walmart totes as reservoirs but have a 55 gallon drum that goes in if I need to be away for more than a couple days. I’m not sure how the kits are versus buying piece by piece . . . like you, I found the company while looking for a drainage system and over the past couple of years have added their pot/irrigation system. I’ve also heard good things about their nutrient line, but I’m unlikely to change at this point.
Do you have access to a floor drain? I just plumb mine to a sump in the basement, but you’ll need a runoff pump if gravity won’t do the job. With the platforms I try not to put more than 4 on a single 16/17mm drain line, I had some issue with flooding when feeding more than 6 at once on a single drain line.
If you’re going with coco you don’t need anything bigger than a 3 gallon pot in my opinion, I’ve been thinking about going to their QuickFill bags start to finish, just can’t decide on 1 or 2 gallon. I’ve got plants almost 3’ tall in 1 liter pots now, no plans to transplant as they are 30+ days into flower. With HFF instead of potting up, just increase the number of feedings per day . . . I may try to see how big a plant I can grow in 1 liter of coco. I think I can fill my 3x3 veg area with one plant and training.
What part of the state do you call home? I’m originally from Alabama, but have been in southern Illinois for a couple of years now.
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