Here is my Nutrient Regement. Not complicated and it is absolutely Complete. Have not had a deficiency or toxicity once with Strive Nutrients. It is a 2 part nutrient that is used from start to finish. All the other stuff I add to increase the Brix level (Stored Sugars/nutrients) in the plant.
Fish shit is not in the picture because I ran out. And also Microbial Mass is not in the picture.
You use a blender? Lol
Yuppers, I add my nutrients in the blender with distilled water, I have it hooked up to a repeat timer to go on for five seconds every minute or two. So I donāt burn out the motor. That way, I am not mixing, the blenders is.
I mix up all of my nutrients the night before and toss an air stone in it. Next day, the pumps connected to the repeat timer, feed my plants slowly throughout the day.
Again, I am 100% all for organic growing. However, that is how I started and I was not able to dial in my plants nutrients, so I made the switch. I am very happy to see and hear that other people are super successful with it.
I have about 20 containers of Gaia green nutrients and amendment stuff, a whole room full of it laugh
Damn well they have a site up now that tells you how much to add for pot size, veg or bloom and it tells you exactly what you top dress or amend your soil.
When I first started I insisted on everything being fully organic as I wanted the healthiest and best product with no chemicals, and presumed organic was the way to go.
However, it turns out that to the plant, both organic and synthetic nutes are the same.
In organic soil it is the microbes that break the organic feed down into the same exact elements that synthetic feeds do. The main difference is that with synthetic the nutrients are already broken down and therefore immediately available to the plant. In organic you have to wait for them to be broken down into their constituents which is why people consider synthetics to be more ācontrollableā and better in treating deficiencies.
My last grows have all been super disappointing in terms of flavor. Everything else is good, just lacking that dankness. So Iāve been looking into the best setups for maximum dankness.
Turns out, no-one can tell the difference in end product between most common setups (genetics are the number one factor, looks like Iāve had bad luck, wonāt be buying seeds from the local shop again). Even between my two local shops, one insists on organic, the other is like NO WAY and swears by synthetics lol.
So, if the end result is the same, I will just go with whatever is cheapest and easiest to use. If going organic does not make a difference in what is in the end product, then thereās no point spending the extra.
@Icirazy22 - how often do you mix a bucket of feed? With organic you have to mix a fresh one every time you feed, which is a bit of a pain tbh. Would be good if you could mix one big load that lasts for a few feedsā¦
Does anyone feed synthetic nutes and supplement with organic extras like compost teas, molasses, whatever? Is there any point in that or is it best to do one only?
Great response @SJ1. This is in line with what Dr. Bruce Bugbee teaches. The plant doesnāt know the difference, except that synthetic nutrients are more immediately bio available. He states in an interview that 40 years ago he was going to change the world by lobbying for Organic, Not synthetic.. but after a few years, he realized that organic farming also has itās impact on the environment and gave up the fight..
Also, some recent research explains how stored nutrients have a half life of about 1 week I think? so in the drying and curing process, all of the nutrients are broken down.
I believe I am one of those people. As stated above, I use Synthetic nutrients, derived from natural/organic ingredients. I also add Fish shit, Microbial Mass Pro, molasses, liquid kelp. I ran out of Fish shit a month ago and I think my plants (my soil) misses the microbes.
Thatās super interesting to hear about Dr Bugbee, that confirms it for me then haha..
another reason then to dry low and slow.
And yeah, maybe you could have the best of both worlds there. Just had a look at Strive Nutrients, this is the first thing they say
āThe only nutrients specifically designed to eliminate Nutrient Friction and optimize terpene productionā
Consider me sold! Bet you canāt get them over this way lol.
Wow man! She looks gorgeous! I want to grow one like that!
I feel like if youāre going organicā¦ you need to go living soil. I watch buildasoil on youtube. All very good information on living soil. And he teaches you from start to finish and has seasons of content for evidence it works.
Nothing wrong with synthetic. Only issue personally with it youāll need to keep buying the bottles of nutrients. And flushing and replacing the soil.
Yuppers! the secret to an amazing end product:
When people smoke Harsh weed, they tend to say āIt wasnāt flushed correctly, synthetic nutes, etcā but more recently, research is pointing more to the drying and curing process. If the bud was quickly dried as well as too dry, it will be harsh.
You can purchase Strive Nutrients on Amazon. If you canāt get it where you are at, I can try buying it for you and shipping it over if you over the costs.
Thatās a really kind offer, thanks man I appreciate it. Iāve emailed them to see if they have a euro distributor, so weāll see what they say.
And yeah, I am coming round to understanding that the dry and cure are possibly the most important parts of the process. You can pretty much screw up any of the other bits and get away with it, but screw the dry and itās over lol.
So i tryed spinosad for the Thrips, and worked marvelously!! im thrip free, and now i hope it was not too much water for the starting flowers.
I did a new nutrient solution for this stage, is 1-4-3 ok on the NPK ratio? any bloom fertilizer for early flower ratios on your bottles?
Yeah bro you top feed every 3-4 weeks itās super simple super easy.
Iām on my 3rd grow but first time using all organic nutrients. I like how my plants are vegging but I wanted to make a comparison to my other grows just for the experience. Iāll keep in mind everything you said, thank you
The people at Strive have been pretty responsive, they have fantastic technical support. Another thing you can try though is talk to your local grow shop. I made sure to make really good friends with my local store. Anytime I want something that I canāt get, I call them up and see if they will get it for me. Like back in the day when AC infinity just started with cannabis grow productsā¦ I purchased directly for AC infinity, and had to pay conversion rates, duties etcā¦ then i just asked the grow store to get it in stockā¦
Anyway, if you canāt get it, the offer stands, just message me directly and I will get it to you. This stuff lasts a long time too, I feed Every single time I waterā¦ and I have harvested 6 plants and the 7th almost done and I still have enough nutrients for at least 1-2 more plants! all for like $120.00!!
Glad you got rid of them bud hope all goes well rest of the grow. I got about 2 weeks before i start my outdoor grow gonna try companion plants this year to fend off pests. I do have a healthy backyard full of predator bugs and the asshole ones lol so hoping some marigolds,mint,sage and lavender plants boarding the grow area help keep them safe. As for nute question i believe you said your 2 weeks into flowering if not mistaken and my personal opinion is should be okay with that ratio but hopefully someone with more exp can chime in
4 Dosi dos#33 Barneyās Farms
Indoor, 2 Led Apollo pro 4 and Atami Wilma Hydroponic system
24 day
I made the first topping for the thickest one and after 2-3 days I will do it for the others as well.
Thanks man! Would love to grow outdoors!! Look for allelopathy! Im sure the topic will be interesting when it comes to companion plants
Hope all goes well, yeah i wanted to go with 1-4-3 for 4 weeks and rhen go only 0-5-4
Flipped 6 Bruce Banner to flower and watered them in, 3 are mainlined, 2 are clones, 1 is trying her best
Sounds like a good plan and i believe the increase in pk value during week 5 will help harden the buds some.(mainly the potasium ) few peeps on here first told me about it and after doing my own research and trial run i have to agree or i just got lucky asf and pure coincedence lol either way looking forward to seeing your plants over the next few weeks budā¦ looked up allelopathy didnt know what it was lol. I was debating keeping the sage and stuff in pots and just line the garden area and after looking that word up thats what im gonna do until i learn more about it lol.
